You Said One Sentence… It’s a No

This week we ditched movies and immediately started judging people instead.

We unpack ghosting (and admit we’ve both done it), including the very real experience of knowing within one sentence that someone is not for you — and then having absolutely no polite way to say that.

From terrible Tinder behaviour and instant “no” moments (yes, fishing photos are included), we somehow spiral into one of the most unhinged moments in history — where North Berwick witch trials prove that a king nearly dying in a storm can, in fact, turn into a full-blown witch hunt.

And if that wasn’t enough, we ask the important modern question:
 Are we the problem… after someone paid $18,000 for an invisible sculpture?

This episode includes:

•  questionable dating standards 
•  red flags we absolutely judge 
•  a king with too much confidence 
•  and the realisation that people will, in fact, buy nothing 

We didn’t solve anything… but we did decide a lot of things should not be allowed.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:12

The wildest thing that you've ever seen. On the loose, here comes the star.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

Welcome back to Moose on the Loose, the podcast where we I was prepared. It does this every time now, the doubles. So I fully had my finger still there in case it happens. So I can turn it off straight away. But now that I've talked about it, I've it's taken up just as much time as if I'd just let it play to the end the second time. Okay, the podcast where we talk shit. Yay! Specialty. Say again. My specialty. My specialty, yes, me too. So Tara and I were chatting about like, oh, the movie thing. I don't know. I can't think of any movies that really I'm excited to talk about. And I was like, what else can we talk about? So we've we've got some shit to talk about. And um I think the first one is Things we don't understand. I want to talk about ghosting.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Oh right?

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Like we all have maybe like done it or seen it done or have heard about it. We all kind of know about this, but it's not like we wouldn't admit to it. You know what I mean? We wouldn't be just going around being like, yeah, I did that. What are the rules to it? Like, do can we unpack this?

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Oh, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Um, have you ghosted anybody?

SPEAKER_00 1:46

I probably have, I dare say I would have. I dare, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

So I suppose there's different like levels of ghosting. So like you could meet someone for one sentence on you know Tinder and then not text them again. Or there's I've dated you for three months and now I'm just not replying. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Like they're very different, very, very, very different. I think the Tinder one every like of course, because you've got so many people messaging and asking, like, the you get ghosted all the bloody time. Well, not that I know. This is a terrible subject because Josh is gonna be like, what are you talking about, Tinder for?

SPEAKER_02 2:28

You want Tinder pre-Josh? Pre- obviously pre-Josh. Yeah, well, I think that's fine. I think you can talk about your pre-josh experiences of Tinder.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Here Bumble, all of the above.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Yeah, so I actually remember two phases of being on Bumble when I was on it before I met Matt and was able to um, thank god, log off forever because I did not enjoy the experience of online dating. Um so the first one was like at the start, uh, I didn't want to ghost people. I'm like, I'm just not the type of person that would do that. I'm a nice person. I think of myself as being respectful to other people. And so I would very quickly realize that I'm not interested in this person. And then I'd be like, oh, hey, so it was nice to meet you, but you know, I'm thinking I don't think I want to keep talking to you. And so you you've done them the courtesy of like they don't have to wonder or anything like that, but then they turn on you and they're like, Well, why? And you just feel like being like, because of how you're reacting now. Like, this is, I think my instinct was correct. And they're like, like, exactly what did I say? Like, based on what? You know, they they were so nasty and so rude, and so they kind of ruined it for everyone in the future. I was like, I don't want to go through that all the time. I'll just and I started fucking ghosting people left, right, and center. As soon as I knew they weren't for me, gone, gone, gone, gone.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

See, I went through stages. I think at the start, I wasn't really interested when I very, very first signed up to it. I was just more of a, I think one of my friends vicariously was like, just do it. And then they were like, oh, that one's cute. That one's cute, that one looks nice. And so I was like, oh, you do it. And then they replied back, and the ones that replied back that seemed, you know, fuckable, I suppose.

unknown 4:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Well, I didn't want a relationship straight off the bat, but I didn't want to be treated like I I don't know, I didn't know what the hell doesn't date you to sleep with you, but you wouldn't date him. I didn't know what to do. I wanted to be the player, I suppose, because I was like, I can do this, but um, yeah, I put myself into some pretty like weird situations in um in some of those moments or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Okay, well, uh, I tell you what, it's here's a weird situation. I put a cartoon on Tinder instead of my face, and I don't know how I got away with it back then exactly, because it does that face authentication thing and stuff now, but I put on like Betty Boop, and um they banned me forever. Really? So like Tinder was like, we've banned your device, you will not ever be able to log back into Tinder. I think I would maybe I was like saving money by not signing up and shutting down and I like re-signing back up or something. But when you tell people that you got kicked off Tinder forever, you sound like a predator.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

A hundred percent. Every single time. Well, I've had a couple of people tell me, and I'm like, what did you do?

SPEAKER_02 5:35

I know, right? I didn't do anything. I don't know. I just it was a cartoon. But then when I think about it, like one of the I think one of the cartoons I use was Lisa Simpson. Then if you think about it, she's a child.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

Yeah, yeah, I can see where that could be a problem.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

I made a mistake, made a little mistake. Uh yeah, but people would click on me and be like, So Lisa, are you like an adult? Like, if you are, I want to talk to you. You're like, I am like winner, you took a risk and you got, you know, it turned out to be worth it. But yeah, so I would like um, I would, after I got that, you know, turning on me thing, I would go to them. But the other reason is that the reason that I didn't want to talk to people anymore is because I had immediately judged them and I couldn't say to them, hey, you've said one sentence for me, and I'm so shallow that I know for a fact I don't want anything to do with you from that one sentence. Fuck off. Right? I can't say that. But there's somewhere, there's some things that they can do that you know straight away that it's a no, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:42

There's definitely those red flags, and at the start, you don't really know until you know.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Oh my, it could be one sentence. They might they might do a spelling mistake.

SPEAKER_00 6:53

Oh, I do the spelling mistakes.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

Well, then that does probably matter to you, but to me, I'm like, tisk, tisk. What about um like you know the ones that at the end of every sentence they write ha ha? So stupid every sentence.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

I was like lol, and then I noticed that like I don't know, emojis goes into a genre of like what how old you are. So I was like, you know what? I whatever. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

What about like if you said what what did you do today? And the guy's like, oh, and you know, went fishing, went and caught a big fish or something. Would you be into that?

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Uh 85-90% of when uh back in the day when I was looking at Tinder, it was photos of fucking fish.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Yeah, and they're holding up fish, and they're like, Look, I've caught a big fish. Women are gonna be so impressed by this catch that I've made. I don't understand. I feel like they're they're there like going, uh, I'm a nice guy, these are my hobbies, but it comes across as I've caught a big fish.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

I get the vibe that they're got they're basically saying that, like, I want to spend time with you, but once we get to know each other and we're committed, I'm going off every weekend to go fishing.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

Oh yeah, they do. They go off fishing for a long time. Have you seen those memes that are like my boyfriend in a photo with me and he's just there like smiling politely? And then the next one is my boyfriend when he catches a fish and he's just ecstatic.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

The biggest smile that you've ever seen a man work is ish.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

As if he gets a fish, yeah. Yeah, fishing, like uh, you know. Um, what about like a guy that's like, oh yeah, just my fucking ex give me like straight away goes into bad mouthing his ex.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Red flag. You know. Hey, Josh was like a walking red flag at the beginning. Oh, did he do all of these things? Well, he did one thing that I believe is a red flag. Well, actually, he didn't.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Don't say it. You're on the you're you're live, everyone can hear you.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

No, no one listens anyway. And I have to force Josh to listen to this. But it's not a bad thing now because we're still together, so it's kind of romantic. But um, he used to stand at the front of my house. No, but um, we went to on a a lunch date, and one of my girlfriends at the time, she was one of those people that are very quick to know whether or not you're in a relationship or not.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

So I'm basically calling her a red flag now. But um, and so when me and Josh had gone to lunch, I was like, oh, how silly is that? You know, who gets into a relationship straight off the bat? Like, you obviously need to get to know the person, and instantly I could tell from Josh's response that he was one of those people that was definitely ready to label whatever the hell we were.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Oh, he was like in it really quickly.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Like, uh oh, yeah, that's totally uncool. I wouldn't want you to be my girlfriend right now. Like, I don't even know you.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Oh, like is that what he said back to you? Like, that wasn't true. He's just sweet what he had to say. I was like, Oh, I think he wanted to date me. Oh I can't judge, yeah. Yeah, Matt and I jumped in and thank God, like paid off, and it's fine. But what if that, you know, very easily could have gone terribly wrong because yeah, we were in it pretty early. Um, oh, what is he gonna say about um oh, I went out with this guy fully. Like, we went to a nice restaurant and there's a QR code in the middle of the table. So I scan the QR code so the menu comes up on my phone. We ordered these food and these drinks and stuff, and then of course you pay through the app, and I'm just sitting there and he's not saying anything. So I'm like, all right, pay, and I pay. It was like $200. Yeah, and then at the end, he kind of half-heartedly gets up and goes, Oh, so like, should we go, you know, pay? I'm like, Well, I I paid through the app, obviously. Like, you when you scan, he's like, Oh, oh, I've never used one of those. Oh, I didn't, I didn't realize. Oh, oh, sorry. Like, not can I pay you for half of it? Um, here's the money or anything like that. Just like a big pretend act that he didn't know and let me pay all that money.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

See, it's ugly because, like, firstly, like the fact that they don't know that they can do that now. Well, obviously, that was a while ago, but still, like, it's kind of like common knowledge now. So, you know.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

Yeah, he got that sweet spot where he maybe it was credible and maybe he really didn't know. But to me, it looked like full of shit. And he just spent the whole date staring at me, his eyes bugging out his head, going, 'You're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life.' I can't believe I'm on a date with you. And I was like, I've clearly I'm in the wrong zone here. I've got I'm in the I'm too low for whatever's happening here. If he's so shocked that I'm sitting in front of him, then this is maybe not where I belong.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Well, shallow? Well, I just I don't know. I was eating soup and someone was like, I love the fact that you eat soup. Weird. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

Yeah, well, I also love the fact I eat soup. Soup's delicious.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Girls gotta eat. Like, fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Um, yeah, right. Oh well, so is there is there anything like have you ever been ghosted?

SPEAKER_00 12:34

Oh, probably 100%. 100%. I've been like one of those, it's I've I dare say majority of any situationships that I've had, which have been most infuriating, has been then when I've been like, I'm not interested in a relationship, and they're like, I don't want to have a relationship. I think you're in love with me pretty much, and I'm like, oh ew. So then like it annoys me because it's like I've got to convince them that no, I don't like yeah, they would play these games or that it they'd try and move in straight away. Like I attracted some pretty like gronky people.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

Oh god, yeah, oh god, that's all sounds awful. All right, well, uh, have we solved ghosting? I think we do can we make a decision on this, like whether it is okay? Is there any situations in which it is not okay? I don't know, because if you try and be polite, they're just like, well, fuck you, you slut. But like Seriously, you yeah, you're just like, Oh, I don't think it's gonna work for me. Well, why not? What did I do? Like, is it something that I actually and they're so aggressive and you're like Oh, they do the work that is like I'm never gonna find anyone and I'm just gonna be lonely for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Yes, you're so much like on the apps, like there's just the most just like juvenile adults. You just like you have so much work to do on yourself before you can be with somebody like you can't say that to them, they don't want to hear it, you know. Um yeah, I think it's I think it's perfectly fine. This day and age, we do not have time to to baby these people. They can figure it out for themselves what they're doing wrong, can't they? God, how mean. I may be the meanest person ever. All right, I got a fun story for you. You want to hear it?

SPEAKER_00 14:17

I think this actually happened.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

So I'm gonna tell you something that happened like in history, and I might like ask you some questions like, what do you think happened next? And you can try and guess like what the reasonable thing would be that you would do.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

So, like, this is this is the story of the North Berwick witch trials.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

So, like, this is what I I've read all up on it, and this is kind of like what I remember my takeaway from it. So, James the Sixth gets married, right? Lovely, romantic, he's got that big king energy, he's he's you know, get his new wife, Anne of Denmark, and she's gonna trials try and sail over to Scotland, but the weather's shit. And there's storms and there's it's like chaos, and the ship's getting tossed around, you know, like it's in a washing machine and stuff. And then, so like, okay, what would a normal person do? Like, oh shit, oh, oh, my wife's on a boat and the weather's bad, oh shit. What would you blame that on?

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Why are we all Australian now? I thought that was.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Oh shit, oh shit, shit, mate, shit, my wife, she's on the ship. I don't know. But what do you blame this on? The the wild, you know, seas.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

So what am I bl what am I blaming the seas on? Like the weather?

SPEAKER_02 15:46

The we the weather, I think, would be a really sensible guess as to why.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Yes, witch. She was a witch.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

Yeah, James says that the witches are targeting me. There's a targeted attack on me from all the witches. He's meant to lead the country. Like, shouldn't he be intelligent? So, like, next he's like, I'm just gonna accuse like all these random people, mostly women, of being a witch. Um, and he drags him in. He's like, confess to controlling the weather, or I'll fuck you up. And they're like, I don't control the weather, I'm not a witch. And then he's like, Um, oh, I'm gonna fuck you up, then, right? So there's like a few like particular ones. One was like Agnes Sampson, and she gets accused of like summoning storms. Uh, and then under torture, she does confess to like raising storms, meeting the devil, and plotting against the king. But the torture, um, hang on, let me see if I can find an example of the actual torture.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Well, I believe it was like a majority of the time people would just confess because it would just end the suffering of and it would be less punishment to just confess, even though they'd end up dying. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Yeah. So they used a skull's bridle or a witch's bridle or a gossip's bridle, it's called. And so it's an iron muzzle with a framework that's locked around your head, and there's like a bit that goes into the mouth that presses down on the top of the tongue, often with a spike. So it compresses your tongue, prevents speaking, and results in um sal excessive salivation, like your mouse really tired and everything. But I think they also like chained her to a wall, stopped her from sleeping, um, threw her around with ropes. I don't exactly know what that means. But after the end of like, you know, the skull's bridal torture and everything, she's like, ah, yes, okay. I was, I was definitely trying to bring those ships down. I was messing with the king's honeymoon. I was like, what should we mess with? The king's honeymoon. And then uh James is like, fucking told you, fucking told you this bitch was trying to sink that ship, right? So people start getting executed. And then he writes a book called Demonology, which says, you know, witches are real, they hate me personally, and we should all be worried about the witches. And the part that I just think is amazing is that Scotland had to issue an apology for these witch trials in like um 2022. Like, like four years ago, they're like, We're very sorry that we said people were witches. Like, if you were a person from today's day and age having to deliver this heartfelt thing, I just think it would be really, I don't know. I think I'd have a hard time not.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

I'd be that's like nobody's thinking of the children.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Oh my god. Yeah, okay. Do you think he was gay? Um, and what what like was so angry that he had to marry a woman that he starts just killing women, just uh it just seems a little bit over the top and very directed at women that maybe he was just like, you know, if I banish most of like most of them Oh, just leaves all the gay, the the guys around.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Yeah. And then he like if he can get through enough of them, he can be like, look, you can't expect me to not have sex, and all that's left is guys. So I don't want to have sex with a guy. I'm not gay. I know that's against the church, but I'm gonna have to have sex with a guy. You all understand. Let's bring your bums over here. Okay, so for me, I'm like, this guy was like social about this. And it wasn't like I so I can't even like I don't even know what to feed my kids. Like, I'm worried I'm gonna give them something bad. So I I go to the yucca app and check everything. You know the app where you can scan it and it tells you if the ingredients are bad for you.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

No idea.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Oh, anyway, there's an app and you can go and scan it. And and you know, and you can just like check because I'm not sure. And this guy's just like, I'm sure, I'm 100% sure, 100% sure. Kill them all, kill them all. You know, there's no part of him like going, I did make that up though. I've made it up, so it might not be true.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

Well, I power, yeah. I don't know. Back in that that day too, I don't know, maybe he had a mate. He's like, My missus is doing my bloody head in, and he's like, Here, watch this.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

I can get rid of her, but we'll have to do it like as a generalized thing. So other women will die. Like, oh yeah, just gets me out of this, yeah, yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Yeah, like, oh, don't we need women to procreate? And then someone was like, Yeah, stop killing the women.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

Yeah, I wonder if they think of that. Like men, but from back then going, but I want to have babies. Well, men don't do that. Well, that's what I mean. That's they're not gonna say, hang on, we need them to procreate. They're not gonna be like, wait, but I wanted to have a baby. Anyway, it doesn't matter. All right, uh, I I've got I've got an another segment uh based on like more current events.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Yeah, oh I was waiting for the music intro.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

Are we the problem?

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Are we the problem? I really like that one. So, okay. This guy, Salvatore Garao, I think is how you say it, created an artwork called Lo Sono, which means I am, and it exists as an idea. So he sold an invisible sculpture for $18,000. So all it is is just a certificate of authenticity and a blank space, just instructions that say display this in an empty space.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Well, and it's supposed to have an invisible artwork in it.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Yeah, it's an invisible sculpture. How do people get away with older concept?

SPEAKER_00 21:56

I'm gonna go get a box and go to the art gallery and be like It's in there, it's invisible.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Yeah. How far can we go with this? Like, this is a low maintenance dog. It's invisible. You don't have to pick up its poo. You don't have to feed it. It's very low maintenance.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

And so who's the who's the problem here? Is it the guy that's genius and come up with $18,000 for nothing? Is it the person who's bought the vibes who's just like, I love the concept and I'm willing to invest in this, that art is so subjective, it's in the eye of the beholder, it creates, you know, forces you to use your imagination. Or are they an absolute dickhead that could have used that money to buy, I don't know, clean water for kids with diarrhoea?

SPEAKER_00 22:41

If anything, honestly, I feel like someone like Nicolas Cage would probably buy something like that and be like, it's art, and like spend his money on air. Like, what have you got against Nick Cage? Well, because he buys stupid shit. Like, and he's got a scary looking face. So yeah, like after I like researched him and the stuff that he bought, like honestly, he's just got so much money. Like, I'm so broke. Send me some money.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

Um, Nicolas Cage, I really love you. So, Tara, if you are listening to this, Tara's comments do not represent uh the opinions of this podcast as a whole, okay?

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Well, as I'll say something nice.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

Um, what would you tell your family? Like, hey, I've just bought this thing for $18,000. Like, do you think they're gonna give you some like, you did what? You know, energy?

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Like, oh, a thousand percent.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah, like you could have bought me this, you could have bought me that. Um do you dust it?

SPEAKER_01 23:39

I'd be like, I broke it.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Yeah, how committed are you to this? Yeah, that's right. Oh, I think I've knocked it over a little bit. I can't tell. Take it back and be like, I want to repair and be like, it's still not fixed. Would you please fix this? Oh, I'd be like another $10,000 and I'll fix this for you. Thank you. Um, so I think at what point are we just pretending to understand art so we don't look stupid?

SPEAKER_00 24:02

I think there's some questionable art exhibits where people literally like I think there was one where he put a bucket of sand and kept put it stacking it until it fell. And that was the art project. Was it falling down?

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Um, there's an art, yeah. There's an art thing that is a fresh banana duct tape to a wall, and it's sold for 6.2 million.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

I'm so disappointed that I don't come up. If I do it, I'm crazy.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Yeah, if you do it, you'd be crazy. Yeah, you've got to be like have some sort of like art background, I suppose. This is when you get really good at your craft. You can just, you know, this is like someone who gets becomes a manager and gets paid more to do less, you know. This is like I'm the best artist. I can now just take bananas to walls. That's how good I am.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Someone questions it, they're like, You're fired.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Yeah, that's right, that's right. And everyone's like, oh my god, like they're the best artists in the world. You can't question that. Um sorry.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

This is the only impressionable artwork that I've seen so far that I still think of to this day, other than like Mona Lisa and all that kind of crap that we've got to like know about. But there's this one of like a robot, and it's designed to continuously like get its own, like it's um oil leaks from it, so it has to continuously sweep the um oil up unless otherwise it will like die.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

Oh, and it's like slowly oh, I see. It's slowly dying, but it's trying to keep itself alive.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

It's like kind of a what the concept is like desperation and yeah, I think so, because apparently it's died now, but apparently at the start of the art thing, like it was like it moved around a lot and it would kind of like move and wave to the customers or the people watching, not customers, but like, and then eventually over time it started stop like it started just trying to survive and just kept um sweeping its oil up, trying to get it in, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

I was like so sad. It just made me sad. You made me sad. In response, I will do this. Okay, am I the moose hole for expecting the gifts to be for both of us? So I've recently gotten engaged and have been with my partner for five years. Her family threw us an engagement party this weekend. And when we got home and opened some of the cards, there was money in most of them. I mentioned it was generous of her family to give us so much, and my girlfriend mentioned it was her money. I pointed out it's both of our names on the cards, and the money should be going towards the wedding or things for both of us. She mentioned, I don't think this is mentioning, this is like she said this is what she did. Like it's not she just like casually mentioned it. She mentioned that it was her family that gave it to us, so the money is hers. But I disagreed. I said the engagement party was for both of us, and so are the cars and any gifts we received, and pointed out it's selfish of her to expect everything to just be for her. She said I was trying to take advantage of her family's generosity, but I pointed out that's exactly what she's doing by keeping everything for herself. She just repeated the gifts were were from her family, so they should be for her. M are the moose hole for expecting the gifts to be for both of us. Go, let loose.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

You know, as much as I'd hate to admit it, I'm that girl.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Oh what is with you? When am I gonna get one where you'll say something that I think is reasonable? Just one!

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Just one. I don't mean to be that girl. I don't agree that it's okay to be this girl. Like, I think she's an asshole. But I have done it before where my family have given money, and then like I've been cut because like it's my family and it's my money, and had that attitude, and it's a terrible attitude to have. In what situation were you getting engaged?

SPEAKER_02 28:07

What was it for the baby? Like, what was what situation? Was it your birthday?

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Like put um Nana, one of Nana's lounges downstairs or something like that, and I think she like slipped him like $20 or $50 or something, and then um, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

I was like you said give it to me, even though he moved the couch.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Well, I think it I've done it a couple of times now, so he just kind of handed it to me this time. No, I do agree that it's an asshole move. I am a I am an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Isn't it like it doesn't really matter which one of you she gives it to, isn't it? And our money situation. Do you guys not share money? Well, I no. So this is current. You're talking about Josh or someone else in the past?

SPEAKER_00 28:46

I've not uh I've previously shared money. Well in like the past we've had joint accounts and stuff like that, but this this relationship, no, with like we'll each other out, but uh no. Do you guys live together? No.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Oh well, yeah, you can't really share money if you're running two separate households and you've got all your own expenses and things like that. So that's it.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Well yeah. I think like eventually if we move in together, but again, I'm that girl who doesn't like to share.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

But he he moved the couch, yeah. I know, but I brought him but you brought your you can you get a finder's fee where he gives you five dollars and keeps the rest?

SPEAKER_00 29:20

He can get a finder's fee for like being allowed to come into my nana's house and take them out.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

I'm so I'm really an arsehole.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Sorry, gosh.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

So well this we'll put lunch together, like it'll go towards lunch. It's not just like I'll take it and I'm buying it from like it's money for us. Like I will spend it on us, or it'll be to buy buy lunch, and lunch is usually like $50.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

So what about in this context where it was in cards for their their engagement, both of their engagement? In this situation, is it okay that she says this or not?

SPEAKER_00 29:55

I think that they need to put the money towards something that they both agree on.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Yeah, so I mean, do they share other money? Are they sharing, you know, they're about to get married? If you're getting married and you don't share towards the honeymoon. Yeah, I don't know. I'm a bit sus on people that are like gonna get married, but I know people people do that. They they just say we never share money, and that just works for us. But I just wonder what's the fucking point? Like, aren't you building something together and working towards a future?

SPEAKER_00 30:28

But don't you like not like because if you join like if you share everything and know everything, like if you want to surprise your partner, they're gonna know when you're taking money out of the account.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Yeah, so you just take the money and they say, What was that for? And you go, It's a surprise.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

I know, but then what if you're the kind of person who doesn't want to know, like it's the that you don't want them to know that there is a surprise coming?

SPEAKER_02 30:51

You think you're gonna not share money with each other because of that one very small problem where they're gonna know you've taken money for a present for them?

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Usually the presents are for myself, but um Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

You don't want you to know you've got a massive spending problem.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

I just think what's yours is yours, and you know, you can share and whatever, but like, you know, maybe eventually, but at the end of the day, I wasn't a huge fan of sharing last time, and it was not fun trying to like unshare or like you know, it's not fun.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

These fuckers are engaged.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

I suppose if there's a fucking ring on the look, if I have a ring, I suppose I kind of have no excuse.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Yeah, I need some more information about this one. Like, are they sharing other money? But anyway, I really like what he needs to do is go to next time he's in front of her family and just be like, oh, that was really generous to give her all that money. You know, I appreciate you know how well like you you guys are just so so great to her. That's so lovely. And see if they go, well, it's for both of you, you know.

SPEAKER_00 31:56

Divorce number three.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

Maybe I'm being too said it to her directly, so I mean, I need to be more passive aggressive about it. Fuck her. How dare she? I don't know. I don't agree with her. I think um that's yeah, it's selfish, it's a dick move. Uh it was for both of them. It's not a good way to start out your relationship. I think you should run. Uh, and I think you should stop writing mentioned in every sentence. It's a stupid word. That's not what happened. It wasn't like she was just casually just bringing it up. You know, this was a conversation and she said this. She didn't just mention it anyway. Uh, all right, well, what do you what do you reckon? We didn't talk about movies, but I think we unpacked some fun shit.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

I think we unpacked a few fun things.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

But I think it's interesting to know, like, uh like with the whole Tinder thing, like, I don't know if we can maybe next episode talk about like funny or uncomfortable dates.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

I tell I told you that one where I scared the QR code of this this guy like an uncomfortable date. That was an uncomfortable date, yes. Um, yeah, we can do something like that. I all had one guy on Tinder. Um, I didn't give him okay, so I I never put my real name on there. And then if I thought that it, you know, it might be someone I might want to keep talking to, I'd say, I'm just gonna tell you straight up that's not my real name. Um, I don't like the idea of being online, and that's why I had the cartoon and I had my like a fake name.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

You were so married when you had this account for sure.

SPEAKER_02 33:33

No, no, I wasn't. No, no, I was having a terrible divorce, and I didn't want him to know that I was on there because he was just the worst. But um, no, so I was Jessica on there, and then I had to be like, oh, straight up, that's not my name. And then they're like, Okay, I've it's hard for them to get past that. They're like, Oh, so you were lying immediately, like I've already been lied to by this chick. She's misrepresented herself as the first thing she's done is fully misrepresented herself. I'm like, I'm I know, but I am being honest now. But there was this guy that I was just like, you know, um, one sentence in, there's no identifying anything on anything. Um and I was like, he said something about being a Christian, and I was like, cool. Oh look, I'm not a Christian. Um, I probably wouldn't date someone who is a Christian, but you know, thanks for your time, sort of thing. And he wrote back, no worries, and then wrote my full name. And he only lived like a K away from me, and I was like, It's not cool that you have my real name. And he goes, It's not cool that you wasted my time. I'm like, We've said one sentence to each other, one sentence, and I immediately pulled the pin. Um, so it I guess what he was saying was, you have connected with me on Tinder, so now you have to marry me. Isn't it? You've wasted my fucking time because I didn't want to talk to him, is the same as saying you can't throw any of this time away, you're going to have to eventually marry me. Right? And then and I don't, I don't know, I still to this day do not know how he knew my name. So yeah, be careful out there, ladies. Uh huh. Go find yourself a mat because if it's not a mat, it's not worth it. That's my new slogan.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

Did I tell you about the one that found me, like found out where I lived just from a photo I took in my backyard? Oh my god! No, yeah, I was like, ooh, he's such a stalker. Did you date him? What happened? Nah, he was too full on. He was he was like, yeah, he was like full, like he was a bit of a nutter, but like, well obviously, but like it was too much. But like it was, it was, you know, I couldn't. It was I was surprised that he went to that much effort. It was kind of You were you were appreciative of it. Like he really cares. I had issues back then, okay. Not now.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

And now probably like I saw this um, like you know, like little clip the other day, and it was women ignoring red flags, and she's like, Okay, girls, so he has a wife, and he even has children. And then the friends are like, so he's a family man. Oh exciting!

SPEAKER_00 36:09

Like it's not that, but yeah, I can ignore some red flags and be like, that's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Oh my goodness. All right, well, thank you. It was very nice, you know, chatting with you, and we'll do it all again next week.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Yay, all right. Have a good one. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

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